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Podcast: The Value of Lifelong Learning for Project Professionals

The Value of Lifelong Learning for Project Professionals with Elise Stevens

All the professional bodies like PMI, APM and IAPM require CPD (Continuing Professional Development). But even if they did not, all project professionals should embrace lifelong learning.

I’ve lost count of the number of major changes and subtle shifts since I started my project management career in the mid 1990s. If you want to stay current, stay relevant, and, indeed, stay employable. You’ll want to engage in lifelong learning.

In this podcast, Elise Stevens of (formerly at: Fix My Project Chaos) and I discuss The Value of Lifelong Professional Learning.

The Value of Lifelong Learning for Project Professionals with Elise Stevens

The Fix My Project Chaos Podcast

Elise Stevens | Fix My Project Chaos This is my second podcast with Elise Stevens. Unlike the first (Project Management and Resilience), this is more of a discussion than an interview. Lifelong learning is a topic that both Elise and I are passionate about.

So, we talk about why project managers need to take responsibility for their own professional development, how to create your own personalised learning ‘curriculum’, and all the benefits of lifelong learning.

The choices that we make will dictate the outcomes that we get, and if we want to get better, more demanding jobs then we’ve got to get ourselves fit for that. If you want to be healthy, you have to eat well and exercise well. If you want to be a powerful professional, then you need to train yourself well. You need to get the experiences and the knowledge that you need.



The Value of Lifelong Professional Learning podcast page is on the website. There are loads of great interviews to listen to, after this one.

The Value of Professional Lifelong Learning


Lifelong Learning is a big topic, and one that Elise and I are hugely enthusiastic about. So, Elise took us on a wide tour in our 20 minutes.

Here are some of the things our discussion covered:

  • Why you need to take personal responsibility for your ongoing skills’ development
  • The reasons why employers do or don’t invest in their employee’s professional development, and the decrease in corporate training budgets
  • Why learning is never wasted
  • How to make effective lifelong learning a part of your routine

I recommend you either set aside 20 minutes to listen, or download it by right clicking here, for your next run, cycle, car journey or other opportunity.

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advises Mike.

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About the Author Mike Clayton

Dr Mike Clayton is one of the most successful and in-demand project management trainers in the UK. He is author of 14 best-selling books, including four about project management. He is also a prolific blogger and contributor to and Project, the journal of the Association for Project Management. Between 1990 and 2002, Mike was a successful project manager, leading large project teams and delivering complex projects. In 2016, Mike launched OnlinePMCourses.

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  • Hayley says:

    Great podcast. However, the constant computer “da -dum” in the background was really distracting

    • Mike Clayton says:

      Thanks, Hayley. I think the sound that bothered you is the result of a little lag… Elise recorded this over Skype from Australia, with me in the UK.

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